Update 8/23: I’d like to make it clear that I have no way of knowing for certain where Maggie’s ringworm came from. The ringworm could have come from any source. It’s possible we could have given it to Maggie or she could have picked it up in the four days after we got her.
Susie and I have a new little creature in our life. Her name is Maggie, and she’s a super-cute, super-tiny little kitten. She’s a bundle of energy, and has brought some wonderful excitement to our house. But it’s not all golden.
You see, while I’m really happy with the kitten, I’m very, very unhappy with the breeder, and I’m also a little upset with myself. I’m also quite worried about our current cat, Aimee.
Maggie is an Abyssinian, about 16 weeks old. We got her from Nightmist Abyssinians and Somalis in Sooke, BC. A friend in Calgary had previously gotten a kitten from this breeder, run by Susan and Graham Marshall, and had been very happy with her cat.
We were told by our friend that the breeder said Maggie had a head infection as a newborn kitten, and that some bacterial infection had damaged her left eye. This meant that she wasn’t “show quality” and so she was free if we could provider her with a good home.
But we were concerned that, having had this eye infection, she’d be bringing something into the house for Aimee to catch. The breeder assured us before we went, and when we were there in person, that Maggie was over her disease and was not a risk. When we picked Maggie up, we also saw her brother, who’d also had the infection, and they both looked like happy, healthy cats (though with a damage eye).
The breeder assured us that there was nothing that Maggie could give Aimee, that at the most they’d trade colds the way cats do whe they’re introduced. She never told us the name of the infection, either, and we did ask several times—she said it was just an infection that cats sometimes get.
We got her home and after a few days of separation (we kept Maggie in the bathroom while she adjusted to being in a new place), let Maggie out so the cats get to know each other.
Meanwhile, we were taking Maggie to our vet to make sure she was healthy, and the vet recommended we take her to a specialist for a closer look at her eye, and that’s when we got the bad news.
The specialist in New Westminster told us that Maggie had a classic, completely obvious case of cat herpes. Many cats get herpes, and like in humans, it’s permanent, non-treatable, and rarely fatal. It can manifest over and over in times of stress, and can be really bad for kittens, causing them eye and respiratory problems. Which is what happened to Maggie when she was young, clearly, and so Maggie still had (and always will have) herpes.
Meanwhile, at home, Aimee was just then showing signs of a bad cold and other symptoms of—you guessed it—cat herpes. So while the good news is that the kitten, Maggie, is probably going to be fine and her eye is going to remain semi-functional or better her whole life, meanwhile, we’ve just infected Aimee with a permanent disease that she has never had and might never have caught.
To be fair, it’s possible Aimee, who’s wheezing away and meowing like a frog these days, caught something else, a normal cold perhaps, from Maggie—but even if that’s true, it’s also very likely that she’ll eventually catch herpes. There’s no reliable test, and no reliable vaccine, for feline herpes.
And it’s true the breeder might not of known this was herpes, but that could only be if a) she never took Maggie to the vet (a vet would have been able to diagnose this in moments) and b) if the breeder was so clueless as to be unable to identify cat herpes, which I doubt.
So it’s far more likely that the breeder knew that Maggie had feline herpes and did not divulge this to us. I find this fairly reprehensible.
Secondly, and in some ways even worse, Susie and Maggie and Aimee and I all currently are sharing another disease: ringworm. Ringworm is a fungus like athletes foot that can be spread from cat to cat and cat to human by contact and by spores in the air. It’s stubborn, but treatable, and even preventable if you know you’re going to come into contact with it.
It’s gross, though—circular patches of red, scaly, itchy skin on your trunk and limbs. Susie has it really bad—multiple spots everywhere, she’s like a personalized “Target” ad campaign. I’m a little better, with about 6 spots I have identified and am treating.
It’s not that obvious that Maggie has ringworm, but now that we’re looking, we see signs. And if one of this Nightmist breeder’s cats had ringworm, they probably all did. And, if the breeder had TOLD us Maggie or any of her pets had ringworm, we would have treated Maggie immediately, and kept her separate from Aimee and from most of the house until she was cured.
We still would have adopted Maggie, we just would have taken the proper steps to keep ourselves, our cat and our house clean and uncontaminated.
But instead, we weren’t told, and we let Aimee get infected, and we let Maggie roam the house. And now we need to launder the curtains, the couch cushions, the rugs, everything, and I’ve got to rub on cream twice daily and it’s just generally super awful and a TON of work.
And, my Mom was supposed to visit this weekend from Calgary, but we talked it over and I convinced her not to come, even though we were both looking forward to it, but who wants to have their mom go home with a fungus after a family visit. Not me!
So there’s a cancelled ticket and my Mom missed the fireworks and a BBQ I had planned.
Again, to be fair, it’s possible the breeder didn’t know that Maggie was herself infected. But it’s so very unlikely that Maggie was the only one of her cats to have this problem, and it’s something any decent, competent breeder ought to know about. It’s much more likely we were just not told, and the less likely but still bad alternative is that Nightmist just didn’t pay attention or know what ringworm was.
Anyway, the reason I personally feel really, really bad is because I’ve been wanting an Abyssinian cat for a long time, and Susie has always been worried that a new cat will come in and upset Aimee. And now this cat I wanted has turned out not just to have “upset” Aimee but even worse: to have given her a permanent viral infection and a temporary fungus too, and I’m the proximate cause.
Meanwhile, we’re having to treat Maggie and Aimee with shampooings and oral medication and it’s not a whole lot of fun to have to do that several times a day, let me tell you.
And in case my friend is reading this—I’m glad you had a good experience with your Abyssinian from Nightmist, and I’m happy with Maggie, but I would never, never recommend Nightmist Breeders to someone else after what happened to Maggie and us.
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There's nothing the breeder can do for MAggie or her existing cats -- and we paid no money for Maggie. So I don't see any reason to contact the breeder.
So, I did contact the breeder, see the next entry...
Posted by Travis Smith at 12:06 pm on Aug. 9, 2007
While I doubt this will actually be posted I must comment on the lack of facts in the Blog. For the record we are the breeders that are referred to in the blog. We gave a free kitten to Travis . He came to our home and we discussed the Viral infection that the kitten had contracted while at the Calgary Cat show. There was no other health concerns with the kitten other than those we discussed with Travis and Susie. As for the dialogue about ring worm we have never had it in our home nor have our cats been exposed to it
Travis is emotional about the cats condition and we have encouraged him to call but he has been reluctant and quite frankly rude in his emails. If any one would like the actual facts of this event please call us at 250-642-1726
Posted by Graham at 8:07 pm on Aug. 22, 2007
Dear Travis,
I am very sad that
your sweet cats are
going through such
a terrible ordeal.
It is very hard to
watch our kitties suffer; they are so
much like our own
children. You seem to care very deeply
about your cats.
Because you seem
to be so caring I
find it difficult
to understand why
you are visciously
attacking your fellow human beings.
I know it is very
hard not to point a finger and to affix
blame for the horrible things that
happen to us and to
those we love, but
to do so publically and
with no real justification is
reprehensible in my
opinion. Such a course of action can
only cause pain and
harm and is totally
unjust.
Herpes is a nasty, easily transmitted virus, but it is
difficult to tell a
herpes viral infection from a calici viral infection without having a culture done. I'm sure the
Marshalls would have
told you which infection the kitten had had they
known. L-Lysine will
help to keep your
kitten free of symptoms.
Ringworm is a
pesky fungus. It
is often indemic in areas
where horses and cattle are found.
Cats are perfect
carriers of the fungus. A single
hair can harbor about 200 spores.
Liquid Goldenseal
will kill it on
contact, and Lamisil
cream does an excellent job as well. Both can be
safely used on your
cats and on yourselves.
Having ringworm
is a nightmare. I
empathize with you.
I went through it
about nine years ago, and so I understand how
frustrated and stressed out you
must be. However,
I know the Marshalls
and their cats well,
and I know that they
have not had it in their cattery. You
could have gotten a
spore from many sources. To accuse
them is not right.
Had they had it among their cats you
would have seen it
because the cats
would have had bald spots. I also know
the Marshalls to be
highly ethical people, and they
would never have
knowingly put you
or your cats in harm's way.
I am very sorry you
are going through
all this heartache,
and I know you are
terribly frustrated.
But please do consider removing
your libelous accusations from your blog. No good
can possibly come
from venting your
spleen in this way.
It is not just.
Your blog seems
to be of a high caliber and could
be so delightful to
peruse. I hope you
get through this
ordeal soon and that
your blog can relay
joy, happiness and
delight in your cats.
I wish you the
best.
Mildred
Posted by Mildred Benesch at 9:53 am on Aug. 23, 2007
reprehensible in
my opinion.
I know the Marshalls. They would never have knowingly put your or your cats in harm's way. Had they had ringworm in their home you would have known it because their cats would have had bald spots on them. Ringworm is easily
transmitted and can
be found in the environment,especially a rural one.
I hope your kitties recover soon and that your blog can tell of the joy you are experiencing with them. Best wishes,Mildred
Posted by Mildred Benesch at 10:14 am on Aug. 23, 2007
What do we have here? Someone who received a purebred Aby cat for free from a breeder with international wins and a sterling reputation, and now decides to calumniate that same breeder by making doubtful statements about the terms of the transaction and suggesting that the breeder has a ringworm problem.
And how does this fine, upstanding person handle the situation? By creating a blog entry, linking it to the cattery website, and adding meta-data to ensure that the the blog comes up when someone does a search for the cattery name.
Two can play at that game. Unless this whole thing about Nightmist is removed from this blog, PRONTO, I will create my own blog, starting with an article on the subject of Poor Web Design. Your blog qualifies in spades, and you can bet your bottom dollar (while you still have one) that it will show up in all search engines as a prime example of how not to design a website.
Cheers!
Helen Warn, PhD
Posted by Helen Warn, PhD at 12:51 pm on Aug. 24, 2007
You can scroll right easily by holding down the SHIFT key and using your scroll wheel. (Firefox users trying this will end up jumping to old Web pages until a) Firefox releases a fix, b) they change their settings like so.)